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ultimedia.com
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:19 pm
by Digiteka Team
Hi, I am a member of Digiteka's team.
We are a French company providing many websites across the world with video players. These content videos are often monetized with a preroll video.
On September 28, a user reported one of our players on
viewtopic.php?f=62&t=43630&hilit=ultimedia.com
On September 29 , our widgets started being blocked for Adblock users.
Could you please remove that line from the list so that our players can still be called and display content videos at the very least ?
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||ultimedia.com/api/widget/$xmlhttprequest
Many thanks in advance.
Damien.
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:34 pm
by fanboy
Was added from this commit;
https://github.com/easylist/easylist/co ... 6ac56fda05
Seems to be a valid addition?
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:23 am
by Digiteka Team
Hi, this is not a valid addition as it blocks our whole widget, so it also blocks the content videos that our partner websites were willing to add to their pages to illustrate their articles, not just the preroll ad videos we play before the content videos.
Ad videos were already blocked in our players so there was no need to block the whole widget and its featured videos.
Could you please fix this ? This has a big impact on our partners' number of video streams for instance.
Many thanks.
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:36 am
by intense
@Digiteka Team
on tomshardware
site, that specific page => your video is simply an annoying video ad not related to the article about How to update AMD Chipset
driver
maybe you could ask your partners do not using your widget for advertising goals
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:37 am
by Digiteka Team
Our algorithms are not always able to display 100% relevant videos but in that case we are still displaying hardware related content videos and not simply ads, this is why we think this report is abusive.
We totally understand the goal of adblocking plugins but in that case it is also blocking content and editorial videos on several websites across the world.
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:51 am
by intense
ok, fixed for uBo (uBlock origin) - blocking only for
tomshardware
for now
https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets ... c6eccd6bab
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:07 am
by Digiteka Team
Hi, thanks for the update.
Is it possible to get our widget fully unblocked ? As of now I still cannot see our widget with the ABP plugin installed.
This is a big problem for some of our partner websites, for instance this french website has built a whole page dedicated to video and no player can be seen with ABP installed : https://www.ouest-france.fr/videos/
In the end, we are no different from Youtube, Dailymotion or Brightcove for instance, we're just a content video player with preroll video ads, we should not suffer from a whole player blocking.
Many thanks.
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:12 am
by intense
for other adblockers still up to easylist authors, fixed instead for uBo
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:27 am
by fanboy
Its very different from youtube.com, not sure how you're getting this comparison. Youtube or Dailymotion is its own dedicated social site, no native-advertising widget needed (people just embed videos directly, or link to them).
One man "partner widget" is another man's native advertising. This is native advertising.
Would reconsider @intense
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:09 am
by intense
@fanboy
Here: https://www.ouest-france.fr/videos
is a completely broken page, maybe we should block only the clearly advertising widgets
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:33 am
by fanboy
Can't really selectively block some items. But I can see a need for it on ouest-france. But on Tomshardware? no. and probably other sites.
https://github.com/easylist/easylist/co ... 0308f1604b
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:26 am
by Digiteka Team
Hi,
Here are some more examples of websites where using Adblock plugins ends up with a broken video block :
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https://www.letelegramme.fr/monde/barcelone-scenes-de-guerilla-urbaine-apres-la-condamnation-des-independantistes-16-10-2019-12409975.php
The "Actualité vidéo" block remains empty
https://www.ouest-france.fr/
The "En vidéos" block remains empty
https://www.lesoir.be/
The "Vidéos" block remains empty
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https://www.boursorama.com/bourse/actualites/le-futur-patron-de-renault-ne-sera-pas-forcement-francais-selon-pannier-runacher-9cca203700b384e2aa7185b2dfd96bdc
The "Contenus vidéo recommandés" block remains empty
And this is without counting the vast majority of cases where the video blocks simply disappear without leaving a trace.
Some websites have seen their stream numbers decreased by 30% and video journalists are getting worried about this.
We would really appreciate if you could look into this and simply unblock our video widgets so that content videos can still be played on our partners' websites.
Many thanks.
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:02 am
by Digiteka Team
Hi, can someone please help on this ?
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:16 am
by smed79
Digiteka Team wrote:can someone please help on this ?
I can help with an advice
- split between ads, tracking and contents.
- don't circumvent adblockers to force pre roll ads.
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:45 pm
by Digiteka Team
Ads and tracking were already being blocked on our players prior to that modification, so I guess that the split was already made and didn't require any additional type of blocking.
Regarding your second "advice", I guess that you're refering to that topic in which we eventually made a commitment not to try to circumvent adblockers, and we haven't doing so since then :
viewtopic.php?p=134931#p134931
Could you please unblock our widgets so that our clients can at least get a working player to broadcast their contents ?
Many thanks.
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:46 am
by Digiteka Team
@fanboy @intense , could someone please help on this ?
We're getting many negative feedbacks from our publishers.
Many thanks.
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:16 am
by intense
Sorry, in uBo is still working, right ? only @fanboy could help you for other adblockers
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:44 pm
by Digiteka Team
Many thanks @intense , it does seem to be unblocked in uBo.
@fanboy , could you please help with other adblockers ?
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:08 pm
by Digiteka Team
Could someone please help us on this ?
We are still getting some negative feedbacks from major news websites.
Thanks in advance.
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:10 pm
by fanboy
What is the issue? its blocked for pretty obvious reasons
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:59 am
by Digiteka Team
@fanboy the issue is that you're blocking the whole video widget, including the content videos from our publishers and not just the preroll ad.
Prior to this, Adblock was just blocking the preroll ads, which is what it is supposed to do, it should not affect the editorial content of the page.
Ad blocking is fine, content blocking is not.
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:21 pm
by Lain_13
@intense
More cases where it should be blocked:
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https://www.videogamer.com/news/a-former-starbreeze-executive-has-been-convicted-of-insider-trading
https://www.techradar.com/news/swiss-cantons-halt-use-of-new-5g-masts-due-to-health-concerns
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/emotet-wifi-worm
Re: ultimedia.com
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:34 pm
by intense