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Post by baloun » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:03 am

bonjour
authedmine.com force les gens à donner la permission pour pouvoir miner
il n'y a pas lieu de le bloquer ( https://hg.adblockplus.org/listefr/rev/8e77e2c2b26a )

je vous invite à lire le texte ici

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https://authedmine.com/
A Note to Adblock and Antivirus Vendors

There is no need to block AuthedMine.com or any scripts hosted on this domain.

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Post by smed79 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:55 am

Bonjour,

je vous invite à lire viewtopic.php?f=91&t=2837

Le problème vien du minage obligatoire pour avoir accès au contenu (comparable a un anti-adblock).
Fort heureusement votre adblock vous donne toujours le contrôle, vous pouvez ajouter manuellement le filtre:

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@@||authedmine.com^
Merci.
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Post by coinhive » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:52 pm

Veuillez excuser la langue anglaise. Une version de Google Traduit est ci-dessous.

Hi, we are the guys behind AuthedMine. We recently found that authedmine.com is blocked by the listefr. Sorry for opening another thread, but the previous thread is locked already.

We understand your concern about "forced mining", but we think blocking AuthedMine is misguided, as it can completely break the usability of some websites and has no benefit whatsoever.

Consider the AuthedMine Captcha (https://coinhive.com/documentation/captcha). This Captcha only ever runs after the user clicks the "verify me" button. It is similar in functionality to the Google reCaptcha you use in this very forum.

Blocking AuthedMine makes this Captcha unusable, breaks signup page and comment & contact forms.

There is no benefit in blocking AuthedMine. You don't stop miners from running (they only ever run after an opt-in). You only break functionality on a lot of websites.

We understand that our Captcha is inconvenient for the user, but so is Google's reCaptcha. Breaking Google's reCaptcha would have a similar effect as blocking AuthedMine.

Please reconsider your blocking of AuthedMine. We tried to make this implementation as transparent as possible for the end user. We don't want to trick users. We believe that in-browser mining - with consent from the enduser - can be a good alternative to advertisments.

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Bonjour, nous sommes les gars derrière AuthedMine. Nous avons récemment constaté que authedmine.com est bloqué par la listefr. Désolé d'avoir ouvert un autre thread, mais le thread précédent est déjà verrouillé.

Nous comprenons votre inquiétude à propos de "l'exploitation forcée", mais nous pensons que le blocage d'AuthedMine est erroné, car il peut complètement casser la facilité d'utilisation de certains sites Web et n'a aucun avantage.

Considérez le Captcha AuthedMine (https://coinhive.com/documentation/captcha). Ce Captcha ne fonctionne que lorsque l'utilisateur clique sur le bouton "Valide moi". Il est similaire à Google reCaptcha fonctionnalité que vous utilisez dans ce forum très.

Le blocage d'AuthedMine rend ce Captcha inutilisable, casse la page d'inscription et commente et contacte les formulaires.

Il n'y a aucun avantage à bloquer AuthedMine. Vous n'empêchez pas les mineurs de courir (ils ne courent jamais après un opt-in). Vous ne cassez les fonctionnalités que sur un grand nombre de sites Web.

Nous comprenons que notre Captcha n'est pas pratique pour l'utilisateur, mais il en va de même pour le reCaptcha de Google. Briser reCaptcha de Google aurait un effet similaire à bloquer AuthedMine.

Veuillez reconsidérer votre blocage d'AuthedMine. Nous avons essayé de rendre cette implémentation aussi transparente que possible pour l'utilisateur final. Nous ne voulons pas tromper les utilisateurs. Nous croyons que l'exploration dans le navigateur - avec le consentement de l'utilisateur final - peut être une bonne alternative aux publicités.



Thank you
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Post by smed79 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:05 am

Hi,
coinhive wrote:We tried to make this implementation as transparent as possible for the end user.
You do what it is benefic for you and we do what we think is for the benefit for the normal user¹.
coinhive wrote:our Captcha is inconvenient for the user
Yes, you captcha not Google's reCaptcha.
coinhive wrote:We understand your concern about "forced mining"
Thank you for your understanding.

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[1] normal user: Who is thinking he is solving a normal CAPTCHA.
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Post by baloun » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:01 pm

Yes, you captcha not Google's reCaptcha.
passer 30 secondes à cliquer sur des immeubles ou des panneaux, devoir recommencer parce que on a oublié une photo, et recommencer parce qu'il y avait une photo ou on était pas sur, oui recaptcha n'est pas chiant du tout.
Je préfère cliquer et attendre 20 secondes sur un minage sans devoir chercher et m'énerver parce que ça me dit "veuillez recommencer".

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Post by smed79 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:31 pm

Libre à vous de disactiver votre adblocker.
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Post by coinhive » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:20 pm

Do you block the paywall on wall street journal as well? Because by your logic, you should. It's similar to AuthedMine, only that you pay with a credit card or PayPal, instead of with your CPU time.

Can you show us a case where blocking AuthedMine really is beneficial to the user?

We could have played the cat and mouse game that so many advertisers play: register a new domain every few days and provide self-hosted script files that are tedious to block. Instead, we choose to implement a clean, opt-in solution. We really wanted to do it right with AuthedMine.

If AuthedMine gets blocked by Adblockers too, we will be back to square one, leaving us no choice but to obfuscate our scripts. Please also consider that to our best knowledge, Liste FR is the only list that blocks AuthedMine. No other lists chose to block it.

Also, from your Qu'est-ce que la Liste FR ? thread:
-Elle vise uniquement les sites et contenus publicitaires francophones
How is AuthedMine FR related? If you want to block AuthedMine, you should start a discussion in the right list to do so.

Again, we can't stress this enough: you're not helping the user by blocking AuthedMine.

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Post by coinhive » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:27 am

authedmine.com is now listed in the EasyPrivacy list, which is a reasonable choice.

We'd like to ask you again to remove authedmine.com from the Liste FR.

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Post by gotitbro » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:24 am

smed79 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:55 am
Le problème vien du minage obligatoire pour avoir accès au contenu (comparable a un anti-adblock).
This seems like a reasonable answer to me. Wonder why @fanboy and others didn't mention this reason for blocking authedmine.com?

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